/dis/ - Discussion

Stable Diffusion Model training (which I am guessing is what you mean when you say AI and not like a GPT3 chat bot that wants to be chopped up) takes 2 things an extensively tagged data set ( like a Boorou) and loads of calculations. Like a LOT of calculations. LIKE A LOT A LOT. As in yiffy-e18 cost $3000 worth of server time to make and that's why if you want to use the tag Explicit you have to misspell it "explict" because they were too far in to change anything.

As for what to do about Guro disappearing that is a question for r/Datahoarders

>>14601
>Could Gurochan train an AI to make guro/snuff art perfectly that could become a surrogate child of every artist who remains and any art from those who left?

I don't know about my more open-minded and talented colleagues, but the meer possibility of this happening is enough to make me want to stop uploading altogether, holy shit.

>>14652
You may be overestimating the abilities of AI or underestimating value of your own art if you think that AI can do better or way overestimating value of your art for AI training LOL

totally possible. i've been playing around with AI assisted guro images using daz3d to create a base + stable diffusion to paint over it. everything is still wonky looking, but with a properly trained model this could be done with today's tech.

One thing which I think could be worth doing is to train embedding model on scars wounds and blood content I think using real life images for that woud be most effective as there are not much fictional content
this woud be very useful for AI inpainting when editing 3d or 2d images.

mmmeee !!!!!

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>>601
>another thing - do we plan on implementing infobox templates?
The software already supports infoboxes, so all you need to do is copying from another page.

>>625
>* "Main article" template
Done, you can use it like this: {{Main|article name}}

>the "Main article" link would lead to the article about Gurochan, which would talk about the website itself (and what you can find on it), as opposed to this section which talks about the specific kink and how to find it on Gurochan.
Currently, there isn't an article about GUROchan, so anyone should feel free to create it. That said, I think those linked threads should stay in that article as it's more relevant to that niche.

>* A way to embed YouTube videos, not just images.
Done, I added this extension: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:YouTube

>* And add the link to the wiki to the list of boards (g, s, fur, art, etc - at the very top of Gurochan's pages, and in large text on the front page). Right now, THE only link to the wiki is in this thread in /dis/.
Alright. It was actually also linked in the frames, but now I added it both to top navigation and the front page as well. Hopefully, that would help making GuroWiki more active.

The wiki is getting spammed, e.g. this
https://wiki.guro.cx/index.php/Well-known_Quotes_On_Sign_Shop

>>762
I cleaned the spam articles and spam accounts, but a few actual user accounts might have been also deleted in the process. Please check if your accounts are present (a list of all user accounts at https://wiki.guro.cx/index.php/Special:ListUsers), and re-register them if they were accidentally deleted. I'm sorry for possible inconveniences.

Also, I implemented an easy Q&A captcha for registering new accounts to prevent such spam in the future.

This should be bigger!

I double checked the links posted here and the wiki posted here was down, so I made some new edits to the wiki from the main page. Please help me add more stuff.

>>14751
Ouch! now even I can feel that agony over the PC screen looks exactly as if should be if you get shocked
In my opinion closed is better especially for electric torture, judging from my own experience with electricity.

Half open could be better for something like burning stabbing with more local pain or maybe if it not that intense.

>>14754
Is it bad that I'm now very curious to hear about your experience…?
I have some experience with shocks too, but only relatively non-dangerous ones like with TENS/E-stim machines and electric fences on rainy days.
I see exactly what you mean though. Closed, grinding teeth with the neck tension seems to be the classic electrocution face, as the jaw muscles tense even to the point of cracking the teeth. I'll go with that then, thanks again!

>>14755
well since i work with electronic i got shocked few times just not as much as in that picture :)
Usually when I touch some charged capacitor,It was very local, But I can imagine how it woud feel if that woud happen to the whole body Unless maybe I woud just die then. Once it even left tiny black burn marks on my hand

It is very different from when feeling when you to something low current like that estim or fence or even naked wires from the grid.

For me it was very short and there is no time even to get scared but it hurts for quite some time like if you overstress your muscles horribly even if that did not happen.

more often it was when I did not get shocked by electricity but my face woud resemble that on the first picture when i notice that I am fearlessly changing some part on the device which is fully working and connected to the grid and just by some miracle it did not exploded into my face.

Thinking about how that could be useful to your story I think rather than Frying your victim like on electric chair giving strong short shocks may be even more painful and scary but relatively harmless.
If you get very short strong pulse the last picture could be good representation of how it feels
and that previous picture is how it feels when you are getting cooked with electric current.

>>14757
Ah, yes I see! That's very informative. Occasionally I shock myself and let my muscles cramp until they hurt afterwards, though I don't really have much experience with instant, high-current zaps like that.
I want this one to be a frying however, electric-chair style, so I'm going to go with the closed-teeth expression. But! You've now made me want to draw someone getting a series of massive, instantaneous shocks like how you describe. I imagine, if you were to be given a shocks like that and know you were going to be given many, many more, and they were only going to get more and more powerful, the dread and fear would be immense! I would have to make it a series though, but I really like the idea, and I'll save the last facial expression for that! ^^

>>14758
It will be interesting to see end result of this work. Your drawing skills seem be pretty good or at least you are very persistent in trying LOL

Interesting, how many posts do you have on your account?

As I understand pixiv will randomly promote your pictures to people who browse pictures with the same tags.
later people will follow you if they see that something interesting for them may be posted in the future.
for that reason I think it is better to use Japanese tags as if you use english you will only be promoted when someone views picture with the same english tag.

And how do I find the japanese equivalent of the tags I use?

Now I have a doubt. If I post something with blood for example, what tag should I use? Blood (260000 results) or 血液 (3000 results)? Should I use both of them? What is the english tag showing way more results in this case?

>Blood (260000 results) or 血液 (3000 results)?
well, 血 gives 222 937 results but now I noticed that pixiv uses both English and Japanese synonyms to do searching so probably there is no difference in some situations.

When choosing tag I try to type it into search box and looks for suggestions.
pixiv automatically gives japanese versions so you can choose which is best.

pixiv allows to use 10 tags and you probably should fill as many as possible

Really? Nobody made a suggestion?

>>2818
Well if you are complaining about the word "rare" there then the reason why guro was rare is because not much content saw created so far everything was rare. There was nothing that much to scan. It was not like today when we have almost everything on exhentai almost every artist on pixiv everything perfectly tagged and searchable for any taste in amounts that are next to inconsumable. and now we even got AI so that you can use procedural art generation for infinite amount of meaningless content LOL

>>2820
Onix, I really don't understand why you namefag during arguments like this when you're damn near braindead. Ero-guro peaked long before webpages were even conceptualized.

What are you talking about?
every year new content gets created so obviously in 2022 we have more content than we had in 2010 and in 2030 we will have even more.

>>2828
You mean the market for guro art is now oversaturated? I get that, but it was by no means "rare" back then, in fact it was a more prominent art movement.

>>2836
You can say like that too, and I even agree that it was even more popular than now and more was being made more guro artists existed. But it was still much harder to find back then.
Without gurochan at that time it woud be pretty problematic to get anything
I think it was the place where famous "Mai chan daily life" got scanned and posted for the first time as well.

>>2851
What a nice thought!:) If we continue to support AI maybe one day it will be!^^

Nope, not possible. because AI has no clue what it is doing it does not really understand sentence structure neither it understands anatomy and it can't do any meaningful scene.
what I think may be interesting idea is to train it for the very specific topic like breasts being cooked or breasts getting cut, spitroasting and so on. maybe then it could work somewhat.
Now if you ask to draw "breasts on fire it draws a big breasted girl surrounded by floating bonfires.

AI art can be decent if you use img2img to build something from the ground up, but most of the ai guro I've seen is just dumping txt2img outputs, which no model I've tried can currently create anything that fills this niche as it is too complex. I don't think ai art should be banned completely, especially if guro specific models that are half decent get released. But maybe a specific thread should be for high quality or ai assisted art.

Many thanks for all your input on the matter. The thread will be closed now and unstickied in a couple of days after we reach a conclusion. Feel free to start a thread in regards of AI art and its applications if you want to delve deeper into the topic.

Hello.

We have reached a conclusion and this will be guidelines for AI art:

-AI art will only be allowed on /art/
-AI art should be contained just in a few threads on /art/, ideally just one.
-AI art should be of decent quality at the very least, this does not imply "realistic" AI art will be allowed.